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Post by m3dolphin on May 3, 2009 16:35:08 GMT
Pan, Not only will the area be improved with better facilities but they intend to maximise the area with,
- Modernised Disabled facilities. - 5 marked out football pitches. - 1 marked out cricket pitch. - A new multi-purpose games area. - Better maintenance of the whole site. - Improved lighting to the field. - To put a stop to any anti social behaviour. - To improve security to the site. - To improve the existing site to make it better for everyone, from sports fanatics to children and dog walkers.
From a personal view I think youngsters playing on adjacent fields might view the proposed football ground as a future goal, and something to be part of. It is also the wishes of the club to bring the disabled facilities up to present day standards.
I'm sure a lot of people, both able and disabled, could gain from this project, especially those that use the rec on a regular basis.
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Post by stfcinbmth on May 3, 2009 16:42:48 GMT
The ones gaining are the ones that use the Wreck in a sporting capacity. I guess the losers will be the dog walkers, with less ground for their animals to defecate on
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Post by dolphin47 on May 3, 2009 16:47:45 GMT
Well done M3 for outlining the 'Positives' that will be gained if Poole Town fc manage the recreation ground NOT Wreck! (Naughty STFC!) and that will include dog walkers too! Surely an improvement to the REC has got to be good? I personally can't be bothered with the negatives that people are arguing about why not look to the positives like m3 has outlined for a change? The fact of the matter is why not let a local respected Football club like ourselves manage the recreation ground for the good of sport and just as important EVERYONE! Rant over!
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Post by llhoover on May 3, 2009 16:54:27 GMT
The ones gaining are the ones that use the Wreck in a sporting capacity. I guess the losers will be the dog walkers, with less ground for their animals to defecate on will PTFC be putting up and emptying the dog bins then on branksome recreation ground maybe a job for you to do then stfc as you seem to talk alot of crap. and once again seem to be going about things the wrong way again as you probably just gone and alienated another 30 people who walk there dogs on the rec who will know be in opposition to your plans at the meeting with there dogs lol what people are looking for and need is info like m3dolphin has posted not all your negative attacks on anyone who dares oppose you.
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Post by m3dolphin on May 3, 2009 17:08:46 GMT
Incase anyone logs on straight into the forum and has missed the home page and Branksome Rec proposal link, here is the necessary link. Look down column on left side for "Branksome Proposal" Clicking on the artists impressions at the bottom of the page will enlarge. www.poole-town.fsnet.co.uk/For example... www.poole-townfc.co.uk/Branksome%20Plans/image7%2014.04.08%20copy.jpgKEY POINTS- Off-road/off-Rec parking to be priority. - Refurbishment of pavilion and provision of new facilities will provide a Rec to be proud of. - Future of Branksome Recreation Ground as an open space guaranteed.
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Post by llhoover on May 3, 2009 17:31:00 GMT
Incase anyone logs on straight into the forum and has missed the home page and Branksome Rec proposal link, here is the necessary link. Look down column on left side for "Branksome Proposal" Clicking on the artists impressions at the bottom of the page will enlarge. www.poole-town.fsnet.co.uk/For example... www.poole-townfc.co.uk/Branksome%20Plans/image7%2014.04.08%20copy.jpgKEY POINTS- Off-road/off-Rec parking to be priority. - Refurbishment of pavilion and provision of new facilities will provide a Rec to be proud of. - Future of Branksome Recreation Ground as an open space guaranteed. behind the stand is that 3 5 aside pitches or basket ball pitches or just hard standing areas? what would be good is to have some of them exercise stations like thay have got around poole park.
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Post by m3dolphin on May 3, 2009 17:39:35 GMT
llhoover, at a guess and going by the leaflet pics they look as though they could be fenced in basketball/netball courts, although I will ask about them on Tuesday if anyone in the 'know' doesn't confirm in the meantime.
Good Idea about the exersize stations, something I will also mention.
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Post by stfcinbmth on May 3, 2009 17:58:19 GMT
The ones gaining are the ones that use the Wreck in a sporting capacity. I guess the losers will be the dog walkers, with less ground for their animals to defecate on will PTFC be putting up and emptying the dog bins then on branksome recreation ground maybe a job for you to do then stfc as you seem to talk alot of crap. and once again seem to be going about things the wrong way again as you probably just gone and alienated another 30 people who walk there dogs on the rec who will know be in opposition to your plans at the meeting with there dogs lol what people are looking for and need is info like m3dolphin has posted not all your negative attacks on anyone who dares oppose you. Oppose me lol, black is black and white is white with me, I never made any claims to being a politician, I just say what I think, and I did live there for 30 odd years, I grew up playing there, so I know what I'm talking about. Oh and I still get back there to watch the odd game even now My mum and dad still live there and are all in favour of the plans Should you not want me to post my opinions though then it's not a problem I won't Dress it up all you like, it's still a Wreck. That's the last I shall be saying on the matter
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Post by pan on May 4, 2009 10:32:41 GMT
Pan, Not only will the area be improved with better facilities but they intend to maximise the area with, - Modernised Disabled facilities. - 5 marked out football pitches. - 1 marked out cricket pitch. - A new multi-purpose games area. - Better maintenance of the whole site. - Improved lighting to the field. - To put a stop to any anti social behaviour. - To improve security to the site. - To improve the existing site to make it better for everyone, from sports fanatics to children and dog walkers. From a personal view I think youngsters playing on adjacent fields might view the proposed football ground as a future goal, and something to be part of. It is also the wishes of the club to bring the disabled facilities up to present day standards. I'm sure a lot of people, both able and disabled, could gain from this project, especially those that use the rec on a regular basis. By building a wall around a quarter or the rec you destroy 2 football pitches so that one can be created for Poole town FC’s own selfish needs, and I’m very sure the rental on the existing pitches will be going up to help fund all the ‘pie in the sky’ promises and 24 hour security that will be provided. KEEP THE SPACE OPEN! It’s quite simple. It’s a public space
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Post by pan on May 4, 2009 10:33:23 GMT
The ones gaining are the ones that use the Wreck in a sporting capacity. I guess the losers will be the dog walkers, with less ground for their animals to defecate on is the long term plan to ban dogs from the site?
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Post by pan on May 4, 2009 10:38:53 GMT
The fact of the matter is why not let a local respected Football club like ourselves manage the recreation ground for the good of sport and just as important EVERYONE! Rant over! Poole town football club. local to Parkstone or Branksome? neither Branksome or Parkstone are local to Poole Town! Poole town is local to Poole town. and as you rightly point out it's for the good of sport!
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Post by pan on May 4, 2009 10:46:09 GMT
Incase anyone logs on straight into the forum and has missed the home page and Branksome Rec proposal link, here is the necessary link. Look down column on left side for "Branksome Proposal" Clicking on the artists impressions at the bottom of the page will enlarge. www.poole-town.fsnet.co.uk/For example... www.poole-townfc.co.uk/Branksome%20Plans/image7%2014.04.08%20copy.jpgKEY POINTS- Off-road/off-Rec parking to be priority. - Refurbishment of pavilion and provision of new facilities will provide a Rec to be proud of. - Future of Branksome Recreation Ground as an open space guaranteed. None of the images or plans above show how Poole Town FC is going to manage off road parking! The plans do not show at least a quarter of Branksome Rec being a guaranteed open space in the future.
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Post by stephr on May 4, 2009 11:54:11 GMT
The ones gaining are the ones that use the Wreck in a sporting capacity. I guess the losers will be the dog walkers, with less ground for their animals to defecate on is the long term plan to ban dogs from the site? of course there is absolutely NO plans to ever ban dogs from using the rec, by writing that you are only inciting more panic for residents who fear PTFC are trying to monopolise the rec which is absolutely not our plans at all. please ask all these questions at tomorrows meeting and the board will be happy to answer them all.
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Post by chrisreeves on May 4, 2009 12:48:47 GMT
it is frustrating that the same misconceptions keep on coming through despite all the explanations that we keep giving one pitch will be lost to public use 17% of the rec will be lost to public use the public do not use the whole rec at the same time-ever! the community benefits are obviopus I would suggest to those that are prepared to see them dog walkers joggers will not be affected we have agreed with the council there will be no excess profit taken by our administration of the community benefits the delivery of our promises will be monitored and controlled by the council existing users will be looked after the rec is underused at present-you dont need to be a rocket scientist to see why we will enhance so many peoples enjoyment of the rec we wiil respect it and care for it we will be good neighbours we have been honest with our proposals -we have a track record of doing what we say we will-Tatnam is a testimony to that
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Post by dolphin47 on May 4, 2009 14:04:57 GMT
The fact of the matter is why not let a local respected Football club like ourselves manage the recreation ground for the good of sport and just as important EVERYONE! Rant over! Poole town football club. local to Parkstone or Branksome? neither Branksome or Parkstone are local to Poole Town! Poole town is local to Poole town. and as you rightly point out it's for the good of sport! Forgive me if I'm wrong, but aren't Parkstone and indeed Branksome whithin the Borough of Poole?!!! Anyway Chris Reeves and indeed m3 have set in stone the info and by the way the open space issue you raise, one pitch taken is hardly taking the whole rec is it?!
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Post by parky on May 4, 2009 16:19:06 GMT
We will have to get there early, Chris has said that the B.R.A.G. will be there in force for the echo.
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Post by Bay Dolphin on May 4, 2009 16:40:54 GMT
pan has been good for us in that he/she has sharpened our respones and made sure that all the positves are aired again and again. Thanks pan.
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Post by llhoover on May 4, 2009 18:57:55 GMT
Poole town football club. local to Parkstone or Branksome? neither Branksome or Parkstone are local to Poole Town! Poole town is local to Poole town. and as you rightly point out it's for the good of sport! Forgive me if I'm wrong, but aren't Parkstone and indeed Branksome whithin the Borough of Poole?!!! Anyway Chris Reeves and indeed m3 have set in stone the info and by the way the open space issue you raise, one pitch taken is hardly taking the whole rec is it?! Pan you should read some of the post on as here i had the same concerns as you have and both chris reeves and m3dolphin have posted some very informative answers to some of my questions. maybe as they university study found out it seemed to be and information problem rather than what was going to happen. PTFC havent been allowed to really put over there plans/visions/ideas to the local people and vice versa and this has ended up with alot of ifs and buts and maybes. hopefull tommorow evening PTFC will get the green light then they can really start to put open to paper with regards what they would like to do on branksome recreation ground. and then hopefully the local will see what they want to do and get behind them.
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Post by pan on May 5, 2009 19:10:23 GMT
Poole town football club. local to Parkstone or Branksome? neither Branksome or Parkstone are local to Poole Town! Poole town is local to Poole town. and as you rightly point out it's for the good of sport! Forgive me if I'm wrong, but aren't Parkstone and indeed Branksome within the Borough of Poole?!!! Anyway Chris Reeves and indeed m3 have set in stone the info and by the way the open space issue you raise, one pitch taken is hardly taking the whole rec is it?! They are indeed in the Borough of Poole, NOT Poole town. Hence I stand by my statement, Poole town is local to Poole town F.C. Not Branksome! Building a wall around 17% (no less LOL) of the rec is not keeping it an open PUBLIC space.
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Post by pan on May 5, 2009 19:19:33 GMT
Forgive me if I'm wrong, but aren't Parkstone and indeed Branksome whithin the Borough of Poole?!!! Anyway Chris Reeves and indeed m3 have set in stone the info and by the way the open space issue you raise, one pitch taken is hardly taking the whole rec is it?! Pan you should read some of the post on as here i had the same concerns as you have and both chris reeves and m3dolphin have posted some very informative answers to some of my questions. maybe as they university study found out it seemed to be and information problem rather than what was going to happen. PTFC havent been allowed to really put over there plans/visions/ideas to the local people and vice versa and this has ended up with alot of ifs and buts and maybes. hopefull tommorow evening PTFC will get the green light then they can really start to put open to paper with regards what they would like to do on branksome recreation ground. and then hopefully the local will see what they want to do and get behind them. It doesn't alter the fact that the plan is to build a wall around 17% (no less LOL) of the rec and therefore taking away that part of open space. the proposed plans clearly show that. I am fully aware that they're only proposed plans BUT the intention is there.
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Post by pan on May 5, 2009 19:57:08 GMT
it is frustrating that the same misconceptions keep on coming through despite all the explanations that we keep giving one pitch will be lost to public use 17% of the rec will be lost to public use the public do not use the whole rec at the same time-ever! the community benefits are obvious I would suggest to those that are prepared to see them dog walkers joggers will not be affected we have agreed with the council there will be no excess profit taken by our administration of the community benefits the delivery of our promises will be monitored and controlled by the council existing users will be looked after the rec is underused at present-you don't need to be a rocket scientist to see why we will enhance so many peoples enjoyment of the rec we Will respect it and care for it we will be goodneighbors we have been honest with our proposals -we have a track record of doing what we say we will-Tatnam is a testimony to that 1. The public may not always use all the rec all the time, but the option is there, that is why it’s called a PUBLIC open space. 2. Can you please point out the obvious community benefits, all you have shown so far is a sporting aspect and promises of 24/7 security that I cannot see from your funds you will be able to afford. 3. dog walkers, joggers and anyone unfortunate enough to be attacked in the dark secluded areas that the proposed wall will create, WILL be affected 4. The rec is not underused at present-you don’t need to be a rocket scientist to see that. 5. Excess profit will be taken up by the security company you will pay 24/7, you will have to raise green fees, this no longer becomes a viable venture. 6. Excess profit is determined by discretion. 7. If enhancement of the rec is looking at a wall then go to prison there are loads in there! I look forward to seeing how you manage the litter problem that the council ignore. Best time to see this is after Saturday and Sunday football matches. This makes the youngsters that leave litter and the small percentage of dog walkers that don’t clean up after their dogs (WE KNOW WHO YOU ARE!) look like wombles. (and believe me, some do look like wombles) 8. How can you be good neighbors when you won’t be living on the rec? Will you have a live in caretaker? 9. If Tatnam is testimony, why don’t you put a stadium there?
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Post by pan on May 5, 2009 19:58:17 GMT
pan has been good for us in that he/she has sharpened our respones and made sure that all the positves are aired again and again. Thanks pan. Happy to have been of some help.
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Post by stephr on May 5, 2009 20:05:26 GMT
as usual, a repeatedly asked question- cannot put a stadium at Tatnum as the land belongs to Oakdale school and this is just NOT an option.
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