settman
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Mar 1, 2014 14:11:34 GMT
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Post by settman on Mar 1, 2014 14:11:34 GMT
Games off
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Post by Bay Dolphin on Mar 1, 2014 14:27:00 GMT
This is awful! It's okay for me sitting at home but I wonder how all the Dolphins fans who are/were on their way to the ground feel. And what about the Stourbridge team, officials and followers? I feel for all of them. It must be better to call off games that are in doubt earlier than this unless some last-minute disaster occurs! What now?
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Mar 1, 2014 14:30:55 GMT
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Post by settman on Mar 1, 2014 14:30:55 GMT
I was just sat in van Brian and luckily got a text,but im very local so not a problem,surely someone should of known if pitch playable or not at 10 am this morning,really unfair on Stourbridge
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Post by expat on Mar 1, 2014 14:34:44 GMT
how is PTFC going to survive this? Well done to all those out at Tatnam who tried to get the game on and I echo Brians comments at this point we need help from the league and FA admin to help us fulfill our fixture obligations this season
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Post by capesteve on Mar 1, 2014 14:38:50 GMT
I would suggest that you offer to play all your home games on Saturdays and Sundays when it's easier for the opposition to travel and play all your away games during the week. As some have said in a different thread, it's not going to be easy - nor is it fair - for teams to travel to Poole on a Thursday. It's hardly their fault.
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Post by st69 on Mar 1, 2014 14:45:55 GMT
Fixtures are already in place, now three home games to be slotted in on Thursdays. Remember we have lost away games postponed as well which will involve weekday travel. Today's was a very disappointing loss though. But it is unlikely that the Southern League will make allowances for one or two teams who are way behind with their fixtures. Remember Bridgewater last year having to play 4 games per week.
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Mar 1, 2014 14:48:28 GMT
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Post by richlufc on Mar 1, 2014 14:48:28 GMT
So pissed off. Why was the game on at 12 then called off at 2.12 after clear blur sky's and no rain? Traveled by train rushing around after work to make it in time only to be turned away at quarter too. Not impressed
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Post by peterlep on Mar 1, 2014 15:03:14 GMT
It is easy to criticise - but the reason was the first ref believed the game was viable. To his credit he stayed to help and really tried his best to get the game on. Tommy was happy to play and if Stourbridge had been then I believe the ref would have let it go ahead. But Stourbridge were clearly not happy and refused (which I appreciate is their right).
Given the fixture backlog it was a bold decision to try to keep the game on which has cost the club (who have to pay Stourbridge's travel costs) - but was done for the right reason.
In terms of us accommodating other clubs with travel to mid week away games - not all our fault. Plenty other clubs have had games called off due to weather. On another thread Pippa's excellent analysis showed that cup ties were a large proportion of the rearranged games.
Anyhow - rant over - just thought I would do it before Rob Bayston!
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Post by John Anderson on Mar 1, 2014 15:26:34 GMT
Can someone explain how Stourbridge had a say in it?
I have often heard the complaint fro managers, including TK, that refs should consult managers before calling the game off. This would imply that the final say is with the referee.
Can someone clarify?
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Mar 1, 2014 15:30:43 GMT
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Post by slepe13 on Mar 1, 2014 15:30:43 GMT
Quite right Pete. Clearly a lot of effort has gone in to try and save the fixture and we should respect that. Nobody's fault, judgments are much easier in retrospect. We can't change our home ground so we have to live with what the weather throws at us, if that affects the outcome of the season then so be it.
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Post by peterlep on Mar 1, 2014 15:31:16 GMT
John - probably needs someone with more authority than me to state for certain, but it was very clear the Stourbridge manager (I think - or certainly one of their management) had a right go at the ref as soon as he got there - and I am sure that would influence his decision if he was 50:50.
But happy to be corrected on that.
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Post by albeano on Mar 1, 2014 15:32:05 GMT
In my view if Tommy was happy to play, and the Ref prepared to play, and Stourbridge refused, then the points should be awarded to Poole.
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Post by Smart on Mar 1, 2014 15:48:09 GMT
If it's was down to Stourbridge for this game to be played then they should be responsible for their own travel costs. If the ref and Tommy are prepared to play the game then it's down to Stourbridge! They might have been short of a couple of their top players so didn't fancy a fixture they might have lost. I agree with albeano. Points should go to Poole!!
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Post by capesteve on Mar 1, 2014 15:53:02 GMT
In my view if Tommy was happy to play, and the Ref prepared to play, and Stourbridge refused, then the points should be awarded to Poole. You can't seriously be expecting teams to be willing to play on this, surely? pic.twitter.com/YdMdJ5BJf5 Assuming that is, that the pic was taken today.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2014 16:05:02 GMT
Firstly I'd like to thank all those who worked tirelessly this morning in am attempt to make the pitch playable. However, that's about the limit of the positives that can be garnered from today. The game should have been called off this morning, there was no away the pitch was playable, regardless of whether it's that "small" area or not, it wasn't playable, and now the club will have to pay Stourbridge's travel expenses (not sure exactly how much) and the match officials expenses ( half match fee and travel expenses) plus refund those who payed to come in.
This was a gamble that should not have happened.
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Post by John Anderson on Mar 1, 2014 16:29:48 GMT
Can someone explain why it was not playable? If muddy then its playable, if standing water then it is not.
Is there a picture?
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Post by John Anderson on Mar 1, 2014 16:35:33 GMT
In my view if Tommy was happy to play, and the Ref prepared to play, and Stourbridge refused, then the points should be awarded to Poole. You can't seriously be expecting teams to be willing to play on this, surely? pic.twitter.com/YdMdJ5BJf5 Assuming that is, that the pic was taken today. I admit that that us "less than ideal" but I watched George Best play on worse.
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Post by capesteve on Mar 1, 2014 17:00:09 GMT
You can't seriously be expecting teams to be willing to play on this, surely? pic.twitter.com/YdMdJ5BJf5 Assuming that is, that the pic was taken today. I admit that that us "less than ideal" but I watched George Best play on worse. Probably not from the start of the game though!
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Post by melvyn on Mar 1, 2014 17:22:13 GMT
On the plus side Hemel, Bideford and St Albans all lost. Wouldn't have put money on that happening!
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Post by ulsterjim on Mar 1, 2014 20:06:19 GMT
If it's was down to Stourbridge for this game to be played then they should be responsible for their own travel costs. If the ref and Tommy are prepared to play the game then it's down to Stourbridge! They might have been short of a couple of their top players so didn't fancy a fixture they might have lost. I agree with albeano. Points should go to Poole!! Can't believe some of the comments I am reading from Poole fans here. I travelled down today on the Stourbridge coach so witnessed what state the pitch was in, to suggest that Poole should be awarded the points is the biggest nonsense I have heard since every time Tony Blair opens his trap.
The referee told us as we were waiting to get back on our coach that the local referee should have called the game off at the early morning inspection as it was never playable. He said he thought there was pressure to get the game on. Read in to that what you want.
Anyway the Poole fans we met in the portakabin bar were friendly and welcoming, just ba shame I probably wont be able to get back to what will probably be a Thursday night match now.
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Post by rob bayston on Mar 1, 2014 21:07:28 GMT
Ulster jim, don't read into some of the comments you have read on here, no way do the vast majority believe we should be awarded the points, they are by people frustrated like you and your fellow Stourbridge players and supporters, but we did genuinely believe we could get the game on. Sorry for your wasted day at least you got back in time for match of the day!!!
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Post by glassboy on Mar 1, 2014 21:22:18 GMT
Anyone who suggests the game was off because Stour didn't want to play is out of their tiny minds and to be frank an embarrassment to Poole Town. Yes we'd much rather come down on a Thursday night with players unavailable, wouldn't we? And our squad had nothing better to do today than sit on a coach for hours with no intention of playing. A huge well done to all of you who turned out this morning to try to make the pitch playable - that's proper fans that people who watch their football on Sky wouldn't have a clue about. My concern as someone who enjoys watching football with great people at Poole (many of you will know who I am) is that the whole episode today makes Poole look a bit Mickey Mouse and won't do you any favours in the future.
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