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Post by John Anderson on May 14, 2015 9:01:51 GMT
I have been thinking about this for a while and despite my optimism that Tatnam could be upgraded recent events prove that it is impractical. There is no doubt that there is the space at Tatnam to expand given that there is space within the current complex to site the required buildings and even the clubhouse could be relocated close to Stanley Green Road, avoiding the main objections. All the requirements of a National League* ground could be physically be met at Tatnam. Unfortunately the Corby and St Neots Matches have proven that with boisterous crowds, Tatnam is not suitable. Our neighbours and the planners now have ample ammunition to refuse further expansion and with hostile councillors, we are between a rock and a hard place. Maybe we could move to Matchams now the Cherries have ruled it out? . Seriously though we do need a solution soomerather than later on the stadium issue.
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Post by Smart on May 22, 2015 12:46:54 GMT
It's about time we got some news on developments regarding either an upgrade or a new stadium. It would be good to hear either way, we stay where we are or we are moving.
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Post by John Anderson on May 23, 2015 7:59:13 GMT
The trouble is that land is so scarce in the Borough and any negotiations have to be confidential. I am sure that the future is being planned and that we will hear any plans as soon as possible.
In saying that, I am as impatient as you are to find a sustainable home for the Dolphins.
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Post by parkstonedolphin on Jun 1, 2015 9:37:27 GMT
Not the speedway stadium please.
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Post by John Anderson on Jun 1, 2015 13:34:52 GMT
As I said any moves fur a new Stadium have to be confidential. Although Tatnam could be considerably modified those plans ( if any) could be scuppered. by Ill informed public opinion.
Move the club house and other buildings to a new main stand ( similar to the Bearwood plan) on Stanley Green Road, and a lot of the objections to Tarnam go away.. Move the pitch slightly away from Well Lane and you can fit a South Stand..
My main point is that tinkering with Tatnam is not the way forward and whether at Tatnam or elsewhere the changes needed are more than cosmetic.
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Post by expat on Jun 3, 2015 11:45:33 GMT
Not the speedway stadium please. Not Matchams,(or Bearwood for that matter) please Keep the Town in Poole!! looks as if we are going to burble along in the SLP and at Tatnam for a few seasons anyhow
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Post by Choirboy Dave on Jun 3, 2015 12:07:51 GMT
Not the speedway stadium please. On the site of the speedway stadium, but a new football stadium please.
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Post by dubchek on Apr 20, 2016 11:22:44 GMT
One of the main problems is capacity as laid down in 1.3 of the FA ground grading. Grade C minimum 1950 showing a rise to 3000.For the final game of last season against Corby we had 2200 with fans 3 deep around the perimeter,sitting on the perimeter fence and turnstile roof to gain a view. Grade B minimum 3000 showing a rise to 4000.Terracing would have to be installed to meet this requirement.
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Post by expat on Apr 21, 2016 11:54:42 GMT
Not the speedway stadium please. Not Matchams,(or Bearwood for that matter) please Keep the Town in Poole!! looks as if we are going to burble along in the SLP and at Tatnam for a few seasons anyhow got that wrong didn't I!!!! and glad to be wrong!! Most issues like this major one are settled by money and/or compromise so if we want to "Keep the Town" in Poole those would seem to be our options
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Post by John Anderson on Apr 23, 2016 7:15:16 GMT
One of the main problems is capacity as laid down in 1.3 of the FA ground grading. Grade C minimum 1950 showing a rise to 3000.For the final game of last season against Corby we had 2200 with fans 3 deep around the perimeter,sitting on the perimeter fence and turnstile roof to gain a view. Grade B minimum 3000 showing a rise to 4000.Terracing would have to be installed to meet this requirement. The Green Guide applies at Step 2 and recommend a maximum of four spectators deep on flat hard standing. It is hard to see how even 3000 is achievable without terracing,
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Post by dubchek on Apr 26, 2016 13:21:34 GMT
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Post by expat on Jun 10, 2016 10:42:38 GMT
It's about time we got some news on developments regarding either an upgrade or a new stadium. It would be good to hear either way, we stay where we are or we are moving. Looking at this post in June 2016 and reading the Echo on the planned numbers of new housing and building over green space etc planned for Poole. All other considerations aside we need to get our Ground issue settled much sooner rather than later!!
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Post by expat on Jun 19, 2016 17:30:17 GMT
I've got to stop reading the Echo!! It seems as if the SxxxxxM is now in the list of places to be built on or around in growing Poole Some interesting reading including laments about closing the railway line to Wimborne...the location of the factories on Stanley Green Rd behind our present home
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Post by scorpio on Jun 19, 2016 19:48:21 GMT
Also touted among others for putting housing on is Turlin Moor playing fields and the field behind Esporta on Sopers Lane Waterloo. It seems that nowhere is safe from development.
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Post by expat on Jun 23, 2016 12:10:41 GMT
TK has laid down the challenge to Poole Council(Echo) regarding a permanent home for our Dolphins. Keep up the pressure!!
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Post by expat on Jul 8, 2016 11:09:33 GMT
See The Echo article today regarding Stadia UK plans for Poole Stadium. Then look at the photograph. What a great location. Just one question. Do the present "sports" at Poole Stadium have any beneficial effect for youth in the Borough. I'm not anti speedway having been a raker at turn #1 in my younger days!! No wonder our national team seems devoid of spirit when publicly owned sport facilities are given over to private corporations which produce absolutely nada in the way of developing and encouraging local youth and talent in a sport demanding skill and fitness' and all this in a facility that was originally built as the Borough of Poole Sports Arena We have dirt bikes and dogs whilst a team like Ebbsfleet down towards the Thames estuary attracts million pound investments and goes to Portugal for training.
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Post by saleen on Jul 20, 2016 9:53:56 GMT
I dont often post here much anymore but keep up to date with PTFC and the stadium plans as much as i can. One question i would like to know the answer to is has anyone suggested building on the green open space at Sterte? Theres easily enough room for a stadium there as well as parking with very good transport links both via road and rail nearby, plus its within walking distance to the town centre, thoughts please?
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Post by afcbptfc on Aug 2, 2016 16:28:42 GMT
I have emailed poole town giving them ideas for new ground. Theres a great plot on yarrow rd near tower park not a expert but looks big another to me. am sure we could do a deal with homebase to use car park. I think what the club lacks now is more board members so we can take the club to next level. i would'nt bother we the council as they are there to busy in choosing where to go for lunch.
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Post by Jack Tanner on Aug 2, 2016 16:48:50 GMT
I have emailed poole town giving them ideas for new ground. Theres a great plot on yarrow rd near tower park not a expert but looks big another to me. am sure we could do a deal with homebase to use car park. I think what the club lacks now is more board members so we can take the club to next level. i would'nt bother we the council as they are there to busy in choosing where to go for lunch. Any land near Tower Park would surely be out of our price range - any large amount of space will be snapped up or already is snapped by a company. It's also not the best place to get to travel wise and Saturdays at 3:00 would endure awful traffic.
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Post by Jack Tanner on Aug 2, 2016 16:55:58 GMT
Presuming that's the land you're talking about, it appears some of it has roads pre-made, suggesting the plots have already been sold. However, on street-view, it looks derelict and abandoned. Could be something.
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Post by Daniel Silk on Aug 2, 2016 21:12:12 GMT
I have emailed poole town giving them ideas for new ground. Theres a great plot on yarrow rd near tower park not a expert but looks big another to me. am sure we could do a deal with homebase to use car park. I think what the club lacks now is more board members so we can take the club to next level. i would'nt bother we the council as they are there to busy in choosing where to go for lunch.
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Post by jonjon on Aug 5, 2016 18:25:23 GMT
I have only been visiting tatnam for around 8 years, but during this time, as a relative newcomer it has been as clear as crystal to me that the club should only do as much as is necessary to maintain a ground grading...and not to spend anything over and above that. I guess that is what is happening.
the need to relocate is obvious to all and i humbly suggest overures be made to the beneficial owners of Hamworthy's ground...either a ground share, merger or whatever. There is plenty of space for development, facilities could be shared throughout the community, Dorset FA would get upgraded admin space etc........and the ground would still be in 'Poole'.
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Post by John Anderson on Aug 8, 2016 13:05:14 GMT
TK has laid down the challenge to Poole Council(Echo) regarding a permanent home for our Dolphins. Keep up the pressure!!
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Post by expat on Aug 8, 2016 18:31:40 GMT
What's that ol blue eyes refrain
"cos you've got hiiiiiiigh hopes you've got hiiiiiiiigh hopes High in the Sky apple pie hopes
seriously we need to focus on ONE venue & keep the pressure on the pols!!
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Post by Bay Dolphin on Aug 15, 2016 20:07:45 GMT
Good idea jonjon and one which I suggested several years ago except that I envisaged a takeover rather than an amalgamation. Poole United would be my only concession. However, I believe that the County Ground is the Dorset FA's property.
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Post by John Anderson on Aug 15, 2016 22:52:35 GMT
Good idea jonjon and one which I suggested several years ago except that I envisaged a takeover rather than an amalgamation. Poole United would be my only concession. However, I believe that the County Ground is the Dorset FA's property. The Land on which the County Ground stands is leased by the Dorset FA from our good friends Poole Borough Council. I don't know whether DFA have ever been approached about a ground share with Hamworthy but they have never openly advocated it either. Despite the new 3G pitch, the Count Ground would need much more work than Tatnam to get to Grade B. I reiterate that Tatnam could be upgraded but now can't be due to the School's Academy status. After seeing both Eastleigh and Ebbsfleet, it is clear that a forward thinking club can make a success of a stadium that is not in the centre of town. There are few sites anywhere in Poole but those that exist are on the outskirts.
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Post by parky on Aug 18, 2016 12:20:10 GMT
Been there done it!!! We went there after we left the s*****m,(albeit after a brief stay at dean court)For a season & a bit,culminating in our 1 point season,when,& I cant remember the details,we were told that our presence was no longer wanted,& we went to Gaunts Common.
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Post by scorpio on Aug 18, 2016 16:57:55 GMT
Hear theres talk of AFCB looking outside of Bournemouth for a convenient new home. Lets hope they are casting their eyes in the direction of Ringwood.Anything in this direction should be reserved for PTFC, and Poole Council should make it their business to let it be known that they support such action.
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Post by expat on Aug 19, 2016 12:03:16 GMT
On a thread here a few weeks ago an afcb fan thought that Poole Stadium was an ideal site for the Premier League side. They have the money to make things happen!! "Keep The Town in Poole"
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Post by expat on Aug 19, 2016 12:23:02 GMT
...and a google search reveals about 6 pages on the afcb forum under the heading 'Poole Stadium" what do they see that we don't???
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