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Post by dubchek on Feb 20, 2013 19:51:31 GMT
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Post by John Anderson on Feb 20, 2013 20:40:32 GMT
"Canford Renewable Energy Limited (CRE) have been appointed by the landowners to submit an outline planning application for a Low Carbon Employment Zone within land to the north and south of the Poole Town Football Club (PTFC) and the 3G Community Sport Facility."
Suggests that they will be building around us.
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Post by dubchek on Feb 20, 2013 21:12:18 GMT
Summary Of Proposals
The site will be developed as either four or five building plots with a maximum total gross building floor area of 46,250m2;
4 or 5 building plots,as there are only 4 shown on the map,no prizes for guessing where plot 5 is.
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Post by dave2 on Feb 21, 2013 11:44:03 GMT
Very Interesting!! This could help with access and new roads etc to the staduim. I note that the plan states that there is good public transport links already to proposed site!!
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Post by expat on Feb 21, 2013 13:17:13 GMT
Very Interesting!! This could help with access and new roads etc to the staduim. I note that the plan states that there is good public transport links already to proposed site!! ...............................now what other site has that i wonder? ??
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Post by expat on Feb 21, 2013 15:46:56 GMT
..just reading the OHEC and the latest Speedway Idol misdeeds, Some comments say Speedway in massive decline in the UK and could there be Speedway at Poole in a couple of years?? Keep the powder dry!!
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Post by slepe12 on Feb 22, 2013 15:12:46 GMT
"Canford Renewable Energy Limited (CRE) have been appointed by the landowners to submit an outline planning application for a Low Carbon Employment Zone within land to the north and south of the Poole Town Football Club (PTFC) and the 3G Community Sport Facility." Suggests that they will be building around us. Sounds like we've been duped into opening the door for these people.
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Post by Commercial Director on Feb 22, 2013 17:21:09 GMT
Slepe nobody has been duped into anything. The plans show a proposed complex, as of yet with no permission granted, built around our approved development.
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Post by expat on Feb 25, 2013 13:07:49 GMT
;D ;D ;D Today's OHEC Bashley and New Milton to merge A sign of the times? ??
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Post by expat on Feb 25, 2013 14:04:24 GMT
;D ;D ;D Today's OHEC Bashley and New Milton to merge A sign of the times? ?? Teams playing in Poole Area 3 or less levels apart 1.Poole Town 2.Hamworthy Utd 3.Hamworthy Recreation 4.Poole Borough 5.Merley Cobham All the above apart from Hamworthy Rec. have reserve teams Teams playing in the Bournemouth area 5 or more levels apart 1. AFCB Bournemouth(professional) 2. Bournemouth Poppies 3. Christchurch 4. Parley Sports
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Post by Bay Dolphin on Feb 25, 2013 15:03:17 GMT
;D ;D ;D Today's OHEC Bashley and New Milton to merge A sign of the times? ?? I note from the OHEC item that the only obstacle to this appears to be the SL's objection to the name change - how small minded is that? Loads of opportuniities for mergers in your lists expat eh? My suggestion would be for PTFC and Hamworthy to merge as 'Poole Town'. PTFC then develop the County Ground in conjunction with the Dorset FA (which owns it I believe) and then PTFC take over Poole Borough as a 'nursery club'! A small change in colours might be required so I suggest the 'change strip' be light blue with claret trim and yellow numbers.
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Post by dorsetyellow on Feb 25, 2013 16:46:50 GMT
Does anybody else want this? I for one don't. I remember Maxwell suggesting Oxford and Reading form the Thames Vally Royals. In truth one or both clubs lose their identity and history. Usually the smaller club.
Imagine us merging with AFCB and the new entity playing at Dean Court even in the Championship. Not for me.
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Post by expat on Feb 25, 2013 17:31:18 GMT
;D ;D ;D
I think its a case of football Darwinism The weakest will succumb given the world wide economic climate. With the best will in the world how can some of our rivals in the SL exist on gates of 49 and then we have to look at how strong entities are formed. By takeovers and acquisitions IMHO in the case of PTFC a fairly recent rupture needs to be addressed.
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Post by slepe13 on Feb 25, 2013 19:39:12 GMT
;D ;D ;D Today's OHEC Bashley and New Milton to merge A sign of the times? ?? I note from the OHEC item that the only obstacle to this appears to be the SL's objection to the name change - how small minded is that? Loads of opportuniities for mergers in your lists expat eh? My suggestion would be for PTFC and Hamworthy to merge as 'Poole Town'. PTFC then develop the County Ground in conjunction with the Dorset FA (which owns it I believe) and then PTFC take over Poole Borough as a 'nursery club'! A small change in colours might be required so I suggest the 'change strip' be light blue with claret trim and yellow numbers. Oh Brian!!! My head is spinning with your very controversal idea. I like Poole Town as it is. I like Tatnam. I like my fellow supporters. I like the management. And of course our wonderful team and coaches. Have I missed anybody? I have only been to Hamworthy when we've played there, and I didn't like it. That'll be a no then. Sorry.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2013 21:03:22 GMT
;D ;D ;D Today's OHEC Bashley and New Milton to merge A sign of the times? ?? I note from the OHEC item that the only obstacle to this appears to be the SL's objection to the name change - how small minded is that? Loads of opportuniities for mergers in your lists expat eh? My suggestion would be for PTFC and Hamworthy to merge as 'Poole Town'. PTFC then develop the County Ground in conjunction with the Dorset FA (which owns it I believe) and then PTFC take over Poole Borough as a 'nursery club'! A small change in colours might be required so I suggest the 'change strip' be light blue with claret trim and yellow numbers. MK Dons spring to mind....
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Post by John Anderson on Feb 26, 2013 0:21:24 GMT
whoa boys, Slow down. let's look at this sensibly.
Bearwood: The site is big enough for the new industrial units AND the new stadium and remember the 3G training/community pitch is already in place and being used. The conerbation is very short of sports facilities and the 3G pitch counts towards the council's total/target. It is highly unlikely that permission would be granted to build over that pitch.
It is true that the planning permission for PTFC opens the door slightly for development of the rest of the site but it is unlikely that our planning permission could be overturned.
Amalgamation: This is a non-starter. Every town, city has a, number if teams at a all levels of the pyramid. If one is swallowed up, fails or disappears a new club or Phoenix will be formed to fill the vacuum. As BD says think of Milton Keynes and and AFC Wimbledon. Many of the club's mentioned above do not like PTFC and the amalgamation would not bring the benefits you might expect. The smaller clubs in Poole are important to PTFC and PTFC is important to the smaller clubs with players moving up and down between the clubs. How many ex-Cherries players have worn the red and white in recent years?
The County Ground. Is leased to Hamworthy United BY the Dorset FA but they do not own it. They in turn lease the County Ground from Poole Borough Council.
When all is said and and done though, Tatnam will do for until at least March 2014, so keep calm and get promoted.
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Post by dave2 on Feb 26, 2013 8:48:20 GMT
Very sensible words JohnA - lets keep going and get promoted and then see what happens.
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Post by Bay Dolphin on Feb 26, 2013 10:56:50 GMT
Mergers where one club is bigger than the other will, of course, result in the smaller of the two losing its identity particularly when - as in the case of Oxford and Reading - they are some distance apart. Where, as in the case of MK Dons, the proposed merger is not a merger at all but a relocation then the old club will lose its identity because it no longer exists. In both these cases phoenix clubs are likely to arise which is also not a good thing especially when, as in the cases of FC United and Wimbledon for example, they are accorded favourable treatment not normally available in their starting point in, or their progress up, the pyramid.
Where clubs in the same town/city amalgamate it can be very successful e.g. Inverness Thistle and Inverness Caledonian (both non-league at the time of merger) and now Inverness Caledonian Thistle in the Scottish Prem! What I was suggesting is that two clubs IN THE SAME TOWN merge. If the smaller one loses its identity it won't matter because the smaller club is Hamworthy! If Poole Council owns the ground so much the better because that gives them another, belated, opportunity to fulfill their promise to provide us with another ground after the Stadium debacle. Carpe Diem.
Don't worry friends it'll never happen - no-one has my vision!
It will, however, be interesting to see what happens to the proposed merger in the New Forest, to be called, I understand, "Bashley New Milton" and to play at New Milton's present ground where, crucially, there is scope for development to Conference level - unlike Tatnam?!
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Post by expat on Feb 27, 2013 0:42:22 GMT
PROMOTED TO GLORY
I know that happens to certain people wearing uniforms and I firmly believe, to PTFC fans cos if they have lived long enough, they deserve it!! The Evostik Premier League to which we aspire shows the following tonight:
Village of Bashley 2-1 home winners before 87 fans (do they need amalgamation or what?) Bideford last years S & W winners also won 2-1 before 87 fans
I know that should we win promotion this year I will be pushing for us to do the same next year, Amazing isn't it,that Weymouth, playing at their lowest level in years, still manage to pull in the fans and that goes back to my too many teams argument. What competition do they have..Portland is a rock unto itself and i don't think Chickerell Utd offer too much of an alternative. From many miles away I don't know how Poole Football survives with so many teams scrambling for a share of the pie and much as we don't like change we should prepare for it to happen
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Post by michael222 on Sept 27, 2013 20:25:47 GMT
Merge with rivals, what a Muppet !!
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Post by expat on Sept 28, 2013 14:35:32 GMT
You're right of course Michael, such things don't happen in the real world do they?? I am talking about the dilution of effort, funds, support, facilities etc visited on Poole by the like of teams founded since 1990
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